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Northbound traffic on this one-way section of Adeline build high speed while looking backwards over their left shoulder to ID northbound traffic on Stanford. There is a crosswalk here with lots of foot and bicycle traffic, children, pets, etc which makes these speeding demons very dangerous. We need a stop sign to control their behavior and keep things safe.
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Matt (客人)
Robert Prinz (注册用户)
Please note that there is an already approved plan for a road diet on Adeline from the Emeryville border all the way up to Stanford, which will bring the street down to one lane each direction with buffered bike lanes on the side. As part of this plan existing crosswalks will also likely be upgraded, but new ones could potentially be added via Oakland's "crosswalk decision matrix" flow chart document.
The intersection of Adeline and Market will also be getting an extensive safety overhaul, shrinking the road space by extending the sidewalk bulbouts considerably, while also realigning the crosswalks to make it easier to get from one side to the other.
Additional treatments are also welcome, but all of the planned improvements coming in 2014 should have a significant impact on traffic speeds.
Guest (客人)
I definitely agree that there should be a stop sign installed on the southeast corner of 61st and Adeline (right next to Driver Park). Heading west on 61st and making a right onto northbound Adeline (or a left onto southbound Adeline) is difficult and dangerous due to poor visibility from parked cars and the high speed northbound traffic on Adeline. A stop sign at this corner would be prudent and safe for pedestrians and bikers.
Placement of a stop sign here should be a top priority if there is an already approved plan for traffic calming.
Also...regarding that approved plan...what is the timing to implement? Or will this plan languish in local politics with no defined implementation date?
Robert Prinz (注册用户)
Here is a design document for the Adeline Street bike lanes coming in 2014, although some changes have been made since this was published in May 2012, mostly around the Adeline/Market intersection where the additional bike/pedestrian safety project is also being implemented:
http://www2.oaklandnet.com/oakca1/groups/pwa/documents/agenda/oak034852.pdf
Guest (客人)
Thanks for the link. However it doesn't show any stop sign at the location I indicated. Even with traffic narrowed to a single lane in both directions it still makes a turn from 61st onto Adeline, particularly a left onto Adeline pretty difficult and dangerous.
Do you know if there are opportunities to revise or modify this plan to accommodate such a request? I didn't see any stops along this stretch beyond the current traffic lights. Cars can still generate a good head of steam before merging with Stanford, so a stop sign here would be pretty effective at slowing things down.
Robert Prinz (注册用户)
The plans for Adeline that I referred to only go as far north as 61st Street, whereas it sounds like the issue the original post was about is related to the crosswalk over Stanford connecting to 62nd Street, as the sharp intersection between Adeline and Stanford means drivers are indeed looking far to the left and behind themselves instead of toward the crosswalk ahead.
The crosswalk over Adeline just north of 61st will likely get upgraded to a ladder-style crossing, but since this is just a striping project new stop signs are not included as they require a warrant and a different process for installation.
You might try contacting OPD to see if they have any collision reports at that location, which would bolster a community request for a stop sign installation there. Sending this request to your city council person along with any collision data might get the ball rolling.
Nick fynn (客人)
Robert Prinz (注册用户)
Thanks for the clarification Nick, although I personally see the crosswalk at 62nd as much more dangerous than the one at 61st, as from my experience drivers are typically still looking straight ahead until they get closer to Stanford. Also, the crosswalk at 62nd is open obscured by all the vans parked at the curb, whereas there is no parking obscuring the sight lines at the crosswalk at 61st.
I'd be interested to see what effect the already approved road diet and upgraded crosswalks will have on speeds before moving ahead with a stop sign at that location.
art (注册用户)
Adeline @ 61st is definitely more of a pressing concern and an achievable goal as the whole park area is rather a charlie-foxtrot of traffic engineering.
One is required to look over one's shoulder at a very sharp angle when merging with traffic on Stanford. Traffic on Stanford is preparing for its adjustment at the traffic signal @ MLK as well as watching the crosswalk @ 62nd.
This means that anyone not creating yet another hazard by stopping completely is driving (and likely accelerating) without looking in the direction they're traveling.
A large scale plan that may or may not ever be realized would yield nearly the same benefits as a $2,400[1] stop sign.
[1] http://clerkwebsvr1.oaklandnet.com/attachments/20440.pdf
Matt (客人)
Nate (客人)
Nate (客人)
art (注册用户)
Three developments since that plan was approved do include a significant demand for on-street parking.
1) The units at the SE corner of Adeline @ 61 are all on-street parking (there are a couple pro-forma parking spots on the plan submitted to the city
2) The Buslab staff park a large number of their WIP and stock(?) on the streets.
3) People started parking along the park for the Tuesday market and some drivers have continued that practice on a regular basis.
All of these reduce the visibility per Nick's comment. Reasonable people in a reasonable frame of mind do slow down and do their best to be vigilant, but it's a confusing bit of interaction.
One of the other things I have noted is the short one-way stretch of Adeline north of 61 is a conduit for wrong-way traffic. Because of the risk, drivers making a left from Stanford @ 62 will speed through southbound. This happens 2-10 times per day, distributed more in the evenings.
I think the plan is a lovely idea, but the area is changing rather quickly. Small adjustments now are an addition to the plan, not a replacement.
Nick fynn (客人)